JFA Case Outline

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Re: JFA Case Outline

Postby SummerEliza on Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:39 pm

In my opinion, all the cases in the game have their own merit. Case 1, at first glance, seems to only be there for instructional purposes but it features Maggie, who becomes pretty important in T&T, and also has Phoenix's dream. Also, let me point out that it seriously only took me about half an hour to play. I think a single song could cover the entire thing. Perhaps getting rid of the amnesia storyline? When I saw that the game was really and truly doing such a ridiculous and over-used plot technique like amnesia I rolled my eyes so hard they got stuck looking at the sky for a few minutes.
Now the third case is a different story... From reading this thread, I think I'm the only person who actually loved the case. It was fun, I could imagine really great circus music being used in the songs, and the ending made it different from some of the other Phoenix Wright cases. In the end, nobody is revealed to be evil like they usually are. Franziska's character development is also important, along with the Edgeworth cameo at the end. We could shorten the case if everybody hates it so much. I"m sure there's stuff we could take out. And why do people hate Moe with such a burning passion? Sure, watching him laugh for a full minute on the screen annoyed me but if we got a great person to voice him, it would be so much fun to write him into the songs.
On the topic of RftA, I think it makes sense in the storyline of JFA. JFA is mostly character-driven. It focuses on the story of Edgeworth, Phoenix, and Franziska and the quest for 'justice.' RftA gives the story behind 'Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth chooses death.'

In my opinion, here's what the order should be:

ACT 1
RFtA
Case 2
One song dedicated to Case 1

ACT 2
A shortened Case 3
I like Pleady's idea of Will Powers finding Nick there. So then we proceed to Case 4.

(Also, can we have a song dedicated to "Edgeworth chooses death"? I'm already imagining the phrase 'Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth chooses death' being sung really slowly and dramatically by Edgey.)
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Re: JFA Case Outline

Postby BadAssassin on Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:49 pm

I think you have somthing there, I especily agree that 2-3 has an important quality at the end. And Moe is expendable, though, the only reason I dislike him is that you can get a penalty of pressing him. Since we don't have to worry about that we COULD have him.
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Re: JFA Case Outline

Postby KatieWright on Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:05 am

arimnaes wrote:Maybe we could open with 2-2, so that we can preserve the mystery that the game presents of "why is Phoenix all emo about Edgeworth?" Then, once 2-2 is over, Phoenix can explain to Maya (and the audience) what they missed, and we flash back to Rise from the Ashes in some condensed form, ending with "Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth chooses death." This would have the additional advantage of providing some additional separation between 2-2 and 2-4, so that Maya's Damsel in Distress moments at least don't come back to back.


I read this and thought: Split stage (I THINK that's what it's called).

Phoenix standing next to Maya, explaining while what he's explaning happens on the other side of the stage.
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Re: JFA Case Outline

Postby MaxwellsDeamon on Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:08 pm

SummerEliza wrote:In my opinion, all the cases in the game have their own merit. Case 1, at first glance, seems to only be there for instructional purposes but it features Maggie, who becomes pretty important in T&T, and also has Phoenix's dream. Also, let me point out that it seriously only took me about half an hour to play. I think a single song could cover the entire thing. Perhaps getting rid of the amnesia storyline? When I saw that the game was really and truly doing such a ridiculous and over-used plot technique like amnesia I rolled my eyes so hard they got stuck looking at the sky for a few minutes.
Now the third case is a different story... From reading this thread, I think I'm the only person who actually loved the case. It was fun, I could imagine really great circus music being used in the songs, and the ending made it different from some of the other Phoenix Wright cases. In the end, nobody is revealed to be evil like they usually are. Franziska's character development is also important, along with the Edgeworth cameo at the end. We could shorten the case if everybody hates it so much. I"m sure there's stuff we could take out. And why do people hate Moe with such a burning passion? Sure, watching him laugh for a full minute on the screen annoyed me but if we got a great person to voice him, it would be so much fun to write him into the songs.
On the topic of RftA, I think it makes sense in the storyline of JFA. JFA is mostly character-driven. It focuses on the story of Edgeworth, Phoenix, and Franziska and the quest for 'justice.' RftA gives the story behind 'Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth chooses death.'

In my opinion, here's what the order should be:

ACT 1
RFtA
Case 2
One song dedicated to Case 1

ACT 2
A shortened Case 3
I like Pleady's idea of Will Powers finding Nick there. So then we proceed to Case 4.

(Also, can we have a song dedicated to "Edgeworth chooses death"? I'm already imagining the phrase 'Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth chooses death' being sung really slowly and dramatically by Edgey.)

I kinda like this idea.. I dont really hate the Case for the play value, I just greatly dislike a lot of the characters in it. I also completely see your desire for wanting a song dedicated to "Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth Chooses Death". If people watched Turnabout musical saw that (we're assuming they didnt play the games for a second) they would be taken aback, and even heartwrenched by this sudden, seemingly terrible, decision. And yeah, we really need to leave out the amnesia thing, I pretty much did exactly what you did when I saw that. So Lame.

Hmm I like this idea... but it's been a while since I was on this thread so I kinda forgot what I liked originally, haha. I'll have to breeze through this soon and see what I think can be best utilized as a production
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Re: JFA Case Outline

Postby AceOfOceans on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:28 pm

I'm new to this project, so I don't have any serious input to give in terms of the sequel, but I would like to say that I loved case 2-3! And I love Moe! I found he was a really sympathetic character. His attachment with the Ringleader, his failed family life, and his inability to tell a good joke (which is, essentially, his only purpose) all under the guise of a happy-go-lucky clown strikes a chord with me. Also, if Moe's included in the sequel, you have a free ticket to make as many bad puns as you want. That is practically a gift from God! And I'm not clowning around.

Aha! Aha! Aha! Aha! Aha! Aha!
Aha! Aha! Aha! Aha! Aha! Aha!

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Am I the only person who likes bad puns?
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Re: JFA Case Outline

Postby Pleading Eyes on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:35 pm

AceOfOceans wrote:Am I the only person who likes bad puns?


I run a Phoenix Wright musical and dedicate much of my freetime to it.

No. You are not the only one who loves bad puns too much. XD *high fives*
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Re: JFA Case Outline

Postby EsabelleRyngin on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:38 pm

*smiles, shakes her head and high fives both of you* Sometimes I think my friends don't enjoy my love of awful puns (even my glimmerous fop). I'm glad that'll be okay here.

(Tiny tiny PS: Hey, Pleady? Did April May's testimony get booted? I was looking at the chart and I didn't see it.)
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Re: JFA Case Outline

Postby Pleading Eyes on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:44 pm

EsabelleRyngin wrote:*smiles, shakes her head and high fives both of you* Sometimes I think my friends don't enjoy my love of awful puns (even my glimmerous fop). I'm glad that'll be okay here.


I think puns are PUNderful!

*crickets crickets*

^^; *kicks Tri*

*uproarious laughter*

Better.

EsabelleRyngin wrote:(Tiny tiny PS: Hey, Pleady? Did April May's testimony get booted? I was looking at the chart and I didn't see it.)


Which chart? 0_o
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Re: JFA Case Outline

Postby EsabelleRyngin on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:47 pm

The song progress chart that Shink did. o no Maybe it was already finished or something, so he neglected to say anything about it?

Evidence of me loving puns:
One time, a site I was a member of was talking about a prom. I laughed until I couldn't breathe when I heard this-
"Sounds ominous." "Don't you mean... PROMINOUS?"
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Re: JFA Case Outline

Postby Pleading Eyes on Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:51 pm

EsabelleRyngin wrote:The song progress chart that Shink did. o no Maybe it was already finished or something, so he neglected to say anything about it?


Oh! That chart is only for the Highlights CD. We love April May's Testimony, it's just not on the highlights. Only half the songs are included.

EsabelleRyngin wrote:Evidence of me loving puns:
One time, a site I was a member of was talking about a prom. I laughed until I couldn't breathe when I heard this-
"Sounds ominous." "Don't you mean... PROMINOUS?"


I laughed out loud in the middle of work. Ahahaha.
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